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Dearest Doula Podcast Episode 58: “This isn’t about the money, it’s about care and compassion.” Featuring Thérèse Hak-Kuhn

“This isn’t about the money, it’s about care and compassion.” 

Returning guest and Tolabor Executive Director Thérèse Hak-Kuhn graced us once more with her presence here on the Dearest Doula podcast.  Thérèse shares with us her origin story, highlights some of the biggest struggles our community faces today, and leaves us with some powerful parting words. We were definitely inspired. Listen in and you will be too.

Dearest Doula Community, thÉrÈse shares her  insights and journeys on dearest doula today! Click HERE to listen on itunes or simply press play below!



Thérèse shares with us her:


Elevator Speech and Origin Story


Moment of Struggle

Thérèse highlights two common pain pints that our community are often times faced with, along with her words of advice for overcoming them.


“I was meant to be right here, right now”

Like many birth workers, Thérèse finds fulfillment and inspiration in every birth she attends, but takes some time to share with us a memory from one of her very first experiences as a doula.   

Biggest Strength & Weakness as a Birth Worker


Recommended Resources & Interview Links

Evidence Based Birth

Midwifery Today


‘Child of the Civil Rights Movement’ 
-Paula Young Shelton

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You can connect with Thérèse and toLabor through various emails such as,, or You can also access more information directly through their website, and don’t forget to check out their podcast!

Don’t forget- if you’d like to join in on weekly discussions with an accountability tribe featuring myself and other passionate birth workers, click here to get redirected to our accountability tribe page!


This episode was brought to you by the amazing folks at Cornerstone Doula Trainings– based in San Francisco, CA Cornerstone offers labor and postpartum doula training & certification, midwifery training, placenta specialist certification, and childbirth educator certification. Email them with the promo code ‘Dearest Doula’ to receive 10% off any training! 

If you enjoyed todays episode, I invite you to subscribe, rate, and review the show on iTunes. What you think matters, and I value your feedback. Until next time dearest readers, have a wonderful day 🙂


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